look, in politics and in democracy, sometimes you win elections, sometimes you lose elections. and i worked very hard, but i lost. and then president obama asked me to be secretary of state. and i said yes. and why did he ask me and why did i say yes? because we both love our country. >> andrea, is he passing the baton? >> you can imagine the joe biden camp and what they said to that. unprecedented in an interview that president obama has never done an interview with anyone other than his wife, and here he is doing it with the secretary of state. i have talked to a lot of democrats who say that if she decides, and she hasn't decided, but if she decides and she is completely positioned to run, she clears the field. there's no one else. not comeau, not joe biden, no one can take her on. because after eight years of president obama, who could come in and as a woman and as a non-obama person originally, be enough of an outsider to challenge a republican. >> this is a real powerful historic mandate. >> yeah. >> but don't wipe joe biden off the slate. he has been a vital part of the